{"id":432,"date":"2012-08-09T23:24:27","date_gmt":"2012-08-10T06:24:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lionspeak.asinglelion.com\/?p=432"},"modified":"2012-10-08T23:58:20","modified_gmt":"2012-10-09T06:58:20","slug":"you-didnt-build-that-but-obama-did-build-a-red-herring","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.asinglelion.com\/lionspeak\/?p=432","title":{"rendered":"You Didn\u2019t Build That But Obama Did Build A Red Herring"},"content":{"rendered":"

\u201cBut you know what, I\u2019m not going to see us gut the investments that grow our economy to give tax breaks to me or Mr. Romney or folks who don\u2019t need them. So I\u2019m going to reduce the deficit in a balanced way. We\u2019ve already made a trillion dollars\u2019 worth of cuts. We can make another trillion or trillion-two, and what we then do is ask for the wealthy to pay a little bit more. (Applause.) And, by the way, we\u2019ve tried that before \u2014 a guy named Bill Clinton did it. We created 23 million new jobs, turned a deficit into a surplus, and rich people did just fine. We created a lot of millionaires.<\/em><\/p>\n

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There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me \u2014 because they want to give something back. They know they didn\u2019t \u2014 look, if you\u2019ve been successful, you didn\u2019t get there on your own. You didn\u2019t get there on your own. I\u2019m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something \u2014 there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)<\/em><\/p>\n

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you\u2019ve got a business \u2014 you didn\u2019t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn\u2019t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

First of all, this line of arguing is nothing new. What Obama did was a classic Red Herring fallacy when challenged over wanting to raise taxes. \u00a0One commits this fallacy when \u00a0\u00a0the attempt to distract one opponent from the actual argument A by bringing up an unrelated argument B. The term comes from an old English myth of training hunting dogs. The trainer would drag smelly red herrings in attempt to throw the dogs off track. \u00a0Note the pause and change between They know they didn\u2019t [and]<\/strong> look, if you\u2019ve been successful<\/em>. This change up was a very overt red herring<\/p>\n

I had the same argument used against me while opposing measures 66 and 67 that would raise taxes on the rich and corporations in Oregon. My point was raising taxes would impede economic growth in Oregon and drive business and the right out of state. The dear but liberal \u00a0\u00a0lady retorted I used pubic schools and roads, why am I complaining.\u00a0 Like Obama the lady had tried to detract from the main argument of raising taxes is bad. In addition Obama\u2019s argument is pure liberal parentalism, we are just babies needing a nanny state to take care of us, and I see this view as very contemptuous.<\/p>\n

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